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Falklands War | Studio Debate | 1982

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Thames Televisions Llew Gardner and Denis Tuohy host a 'TV Eye' special about the escalating Falklands Crisis. First shown in 06/05/1982 Presenters: Denis Tuohy Lew Gardner Panel: Dr. David Owen Sir. Anthony Kewshaw Denis Healey If you would like to license a clip from this debate, please e mail: archive@fremantlemedia,com Quote: VT26843

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@Werrf1منذ 4 سنوات It's very easy for me to say this, as a Briton looking back on these events forty years later, but frankly this is all ridiculous. There were 1,820 id="hidden2" class="buttons"> people who had the right to decide the future of the islands, and they were the people who bloody lived there! It doesn't matter what Argentina wants, it doesn't matter what Britain wants, it matters what the Falkland Islanders want. Britain had accepted responsibility for their defence, we had - and have - a moral duty to defend them. ....وسعت 83
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@fasthracingمنذ 3 سنوات The Falkland Isles were British before Argentina even existed as a country! 28
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@stevieh9860منذ 4 سنوات “I’m not quite sure sir, that you addressed yourself entirely to my question “
They don’t make em like that anymore. 15
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@andy99ishمنذ 2 سنوات "Was it worth losing lives to maintain the principle that armed aggression should not pay ?" is a manipulative question, as it leaves out the id="hidden3" class="buttons"> fact, that Falkland islanders are actually people and not some abstract principles. ....وسعت 12
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@mxxx0404منذ 2 سنوات Gentlemen all of them. No interruptions, just courtesy and mutual respect. Our modern politicians could learn a great deal from these men. 9
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@fasthracingمنذ 3 سنوات Thank god we had Mrs T as prime minister at the time. 31
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@AndreiTupolevمنذ 5 سنوات "Impossible to exercise continuous political control", says Denis Healey pompously. I bet the commanders on the ground were extremely grateful for that. 22
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@darrenclapson9200منذ 6 سنوات How wrong all of these men were. Defend your citizens and your lands and the people will always be with you. 54
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@CharlieVane21منذ 6 سنوات That phone was state of the art in 1982. lol Amazing the difference in feel with modern media. What will it be like 40 years from now? 5
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@HuplesCatمنذ 5 سنوات When the task force sailed it was 70% in favour. When they sunk the first ship about 99% 23
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@Celts18منذ 3 سنوات Haig as is US Secretary of State Al Haig, not Hague as in some vague international agency. 1
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@JandJProductionsJNNمنذ 3 سنوات I’m quite a lefty, but I’ll admit that had Foot and Healey been in power they would’ve bungled this entire situation. 10
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@brandonnow4188منذ 7 سنوات The Peruvian peace deal ! Remember that ! 8
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@jamessayers1428منذ 5 سنوات It would have been irresponsible to use force without attempting to resolve the conflict satisfactorily by diplomatic means. It was necessary to do so to maintain domestic and international support for the action. 14
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@naczspecrembudقبل 7 أشهر Very interesting - seeing it now. Before military victory by UK, they contemplated ceasefire and feared that temporary situation becomes permanent, like id="hidden6" class="buttons"> other managed by UN. Same dilemmas are in Ukraine but the scale and casualties are higher. ....وسعت
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@aananhenderson2689منذ 3 سنوات why did he have the phone on set in the first place 2
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@CharlieVane21منذ 6 سنوات On an attack on the mainland. UK didn't have the wherewithal to attack the mainland in 1982, it had no real (conventional)deep strike capability. The id="hidden7" class="buttons"> bombers couldn't even shut down the airfield on the islands, so no point going after their bases in Argentina. Would have ended in disaster. Totally different now, though, as the RN has a real deep strike capability - Tomahawk, Storm Shadow, soon the F35, drones even. Could end a war even before its really got started.
Not that the Argentinians would ever go there again. Though, would the UK launch such an attack unilaterally? That would be interesting. Brings in the debate on GPS and Galileo, would the US or the EU let the UK launch such an attack? Therefore should the UK have its own satellite system? ....وسعت 2
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@doctorsocrates4413منذ 2 سنوات Why a debate?.clear cut situation and Mrs Thatcher sorted it. 1
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@alexm7743منذ 4 سنوات El ataque del 1 de mayo a tres buques ingleses por parte de aviones de la FAA sigue siendo un secreto militar bien guardado por los ingleses.
Este id="hidden8" class="buttons"> ataque es el que hay que investigar. porque numerosos testigos en tierra vieron como el buque de más porte se retiraba del lugar humeando luego de este ataque, y explotando esa misma noche.
Qué barco era? ....وسعت 3
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@chrissheppard5068منذ 6 سنوات As soon as you put this so called sacrifice limit in place you might as well get the white flag out.Tossers. It was great patrolling into Stanley watching id="hidden9" class="buttons"> the Argentine troops retreat to the airport. Job done no compromise but a sound thrashing and surrender. ....وسعت 23
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@pmays4العام الماضي If I call him, will he pick up and have a chat with me live on air? 2
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@YARROWS9منذ 4 سنوات We went down there with no early warning aircraft and shit counter measures for dealing with fast attack aircraft that the Argies had. Plus we scrapped id="hidden10" class="buttons"> our big carriers, capable of sending out long range fighter patrols and bombers. ....وسعت 4
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@alexm7743منذ 4 سنوات Please, can anyone tell
what happened the first day of the conflict (1st of may) with three Royal Navy
ships attacked by argentine aircrafts?. id="hidden11" class="buttons"> Historians claim that this stil
remain an unclassified military secret. ....وسعت
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@starguy321منذ 3 سنوات All these people criticising Healey and Owen when both of them were part of the Labour government that actually stopped a war in 1977, when Argentina tried id="hidden12" class="buttons"> an invasion. The Conservatives withdrew forces from the south Atlantic while Argentina was making threats to invade at the UN and in the media. Thatcher though is seen as a hero because she let a war happen and won it, but Healey and Owen aren’t because they only stopped a war and maintained the status of the islanders diplomatically and without casualties ....وسعت 5
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@sputnik1315منذ 3 سنوات I can't help noticing the style of those politicians and the way they spoke and comparing it to the shouting we hear today on TV. I arrived to this id="hidden13" class="buttons"> country about the time of that crisis and remember some of those debates. Sorry Britain, you have declined quite a bit in such a short time ....وسعت 4
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@douglastaggart9360منذ 4 سنوات Imagine Jeremy Corbyn being prime minister then but I remember this as if it was yesterday I was 16 at the time and as soon as I was 18 joined the British army and here we are 38 years later and Falklands are still British 7
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@Ingens_Scherzمنذ 4 سنوات Pretty extraordinary how utterly, utterly out of touch these talking heads were (Kershaw less so, perhaps). I was too young to follow the political class id="hidden15" class="buttons"> and lapdog commentariat at this time (they haven't changed, have they?).
All I remember is that everyone - everyone - young and old - were totally outraged by the Argentinian criminals and absolutely overjoyed when our troops quite rightly kicked their arses all the way back to Buenos Aires. ....وسعت 20
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@sheeplebarn333منذ 5 سنوات Once Argentina invaded the islands they made the decision the matter would be settled by war. They lost so there is and was nothing left to discuss period. The Falklands are British. 16
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@markmeade2937منذ 3 سنوات Our government had a moral obligation to protect the Falkland Islanders , they did and it’s done …….
These politicians are in a parallel universe, so out of touch 2
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@therealbettyswollocksمنذ 5 سنوات Two of the three are typical of British leaders in the 60s and 70s, - weak, post-imperial and compliant. thankfully we had a female leader with some id="hidden18" class="buttons"> backbone.
3 old men: “We should negotiate with the Argies”
Thatcher: “Hold my tea” ....وسعت 53
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@erniemccracken2429منذ 3 سنوات Thatcher had more balls than any bloke in the House of Commons - especially those on the Opposition benches.
Had there been a Labour government id="hidden19" class="buttons"> in the 80s then the Falklands would belong to Argentina right now. I'm convinced of that. ....وسعت 3
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@jameseadie7145منذ 3 سنوات Ah the Peruvian peace deal, what a load of bollocks. 3
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@stephenpotts1158منذ 6 سنوات Peron created the Malvinas myth and by '82 Argentina was ready for war..
Falklands - Argentina's Imaginary Territory (1 pg):- .
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@andrewhay2241منذ 4 سنوات God that David Owen's a slimeball isn't he? 3
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@starchild8036منذ 4 سنوات When you take a look to the map it is pretty easy to know that they are argentinians,if they were not an strategic place,full of oil and the proyection on antartida ,uk would be not giving a sh*t about the kelpers 1
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@polkbanمنذ 3 سنوات Do you know why Argentina had a military goberment? . While you british were playing games with USSR , in Argentina the USSR en Cuba where supporting id="hidden22" class="buttons"> a comunist guerrilla warfare. The military Junta were fighting them for years!! And the 30.000 are not the right number but 8.500. Most of them had been killed on a batterfield or while they attemp to take a military base 1974/1977. Was a mistake too invade the Islands? Of course it was!!! But in Argentina there was not a Dictatorship as Nazi germany or Uganda or N Korea. saludos from Buenos Aires ....وسعت
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@markbailey1970منذ 3 سنوات We provoked the war - appalling really. 1
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@WTFiamabananaقبل 11 أشهر Why are they all ignoring the will of the Falkand Islanders themselves, arguably the most important element of all this? They did not want to be ruled id="hidden23" class="buttons"> by the Argentinian military regime, period. They were all British citizens, many of whose families had emigrated from Britain only 2-3 generations ago.
A foreign and hostile military dictatorship invades a democratic state, and that state is chastised for defending itself? For defending their own citizens?
Nah b these mans are stupid ....وسعت 2