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MY EXPERIENCE IN A (sales) CULT

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    @SuperNuclearUnicorn4 years ago "I was telling my boyfriend"
    Men and women everywhere are devastated
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    @joefernandez80084 years ago A little cult called... Raid: Shadow Legends? 1092
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    @Chelseajustwatches4 years ago A video about sales cults that ISN'T sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends? 944
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    @daypr88014 years ago Hi Alizee! I am on Day 2 of my sobriety... and your videos on your own struggle with drugs and alcohol inspired me to make a change after 12 years of drug use. Thanks for existing. You bring so much positivity to many.
    ❤️❤️❤️
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    @amydunnefp4 years ago This lowkey sounded like a Trisha paytas title 661
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    @onlythelonely934 years ago We really need to talk about all the things cults and MLM have in common. 652
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    @KristinaEspinoza4 years ago Alizee: I was telling my boyfriend the other day-
    Me, as though I had any chance: OH
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    @MalcH4 years ago If it was a pyramid scheme then that thumbnail deserves applause 307
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    @universe5144 years ago “commission only jobs are wrong”
    artists everywhere: :’)
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    @b0ss6434 years ago clicked immediately so i can please the lizard queen 269
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    @rankincreates95004 years ago Yaaaaa I got introduced into something a few weeks ago like this and it was through Zip Recruiter! The pandemic has hit me hard so imagine my excitement to land 2 interviews only to realize it was basically a MLM 😐 Heres are some signs- 1. If you're confused AT ANY point (about when your interview time is because you keep getting updated requests, what the company does exactly, etc) even before the initial interview, run. 2. If your 'interview' suddenly turns into a 'webinar,' run. 3. If at any point during the webinar they mention bringing people onto your team aka recruitment, run. 4. If you are only getting paid commission, run. Hope this helps. I start my new job, not for an MLM, this Monday 🥰🎉🥂 ... 28
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    @Alex-pn2hn4 years ago Something similar happened to me when i was 18. Gross that they prey on impressionable young adults. 132
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    @kaemincha4 years ago I can't imagine you yelling "JUICE" in the morning. 332
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    @PommeDeTerre84 years ago So you managed to get out of both drugs and an MLM? Respect, its tough af to get out of one of them let alone both. 42
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    @alexvasile45704 years ago "come get ya'll juice!" .....they never told them the juice was The Kool-Aid 94
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    @anthonynib87954 years ago I did a job exactly like this, it's soul crushing. I worked there for a few weeks maybe and spent more money on cigarettes and sneaking off to day drink than I earned, I can't describe how bad my addictions got in such a short amount of time. In the end the early morning group chants and conference call inspirational speeches from top sellers weren't enough to stop me going home at 9pm and just crying, covered in blisters and self-hatred
    I have one good memory in the field. A homeless guy asked for a cig, we chatted, I bought him breakfast, we had some pints, and he got a fair few people to sign up in return. He was a better, more decent and genuine person than a single boss back at the office
    I was gullible, please no one else be when it comes to these kinds of jobs unless you're one of the heartless few who can actually make it
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    @jesswhite14 years ago I was in a sales cult too. Selling Dollar Tree Makeup for Sephora Prices. Selling almost literal Vaseline as if it was The finest Estée Lauder face cream. Of course I didn’t know that when I started but after trying the products over and over again and trying to sell it for months and months I finally got smart and started watching YouTube videos about the company and the products. I looked up the ingredients. I quit the same day. Had to wait 6 months for my “Contract” to end so I could talk about it and move on. Hadn’t even realized I signed a contract. We wasn’t allowed to talk about our income (which was almost nothing), our actual position in the company (only the Color associated with our “rank”), wasn’t allowed to tell our families the details associated with the job, we had weekly meeting on Zoom where th Leader would pump us up and feed us bullshit. Tell us that we were one sale away from greatness. It was a cult mentality. We were even told to attack our critics. It was crazy. ... 20
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    @Vbbymcr4 years ago “Did a lot of mdma that summer” that’s made the video for me😂😂 32
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    @alamobirds31154 years ago I’d rather draw furry porn than do mlm sales. 39
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    @emmagrogan1234 years ago I had the exact same job.
    I made £16 in two weeks.
    Travel to London Bridge every morning. It killed my soul. It honestly should be illegal.
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    @ellenpugh73224 years ago Got fired from something similar, granted I wasn't on commission but in the interview I was told it was just renewing peoples contents insurance but then I started working and found out it was essentially cold calling people who were 60+ into buying it. The gas lighting was real saying "you're only selling what people need." And I was constantly undermined by the manager with insults and he who go on these anti-mask rants. I started looking further into the data they had and found loads of people who had taken out a £90 policy but had been charged twice with no refund so I started flagging it up and he would say "well if they didn't ring us to ask for a refund surely they can't be missing it." Like they shouldn't have been charged twice in the first place and I kept thinking "what if that was my nan?" So I started making a conscious effort to NOT sell anything and looked for another job and became more vocal about how legal it was. I lasted a week in total before I was fired after pointing out the legalities of cold calling. Reported to trading standards and start a legitimate job next week. I think these companies do prey on the naive and inexperienced, it only just occured to me that all of the people with previous experience in sales didn't get the job probably because they would be wise to a scam. ... 9
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    @rebeccaosier93144 years ago Alizee posted a new video? Best B-Day present ever 24
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    @OriiArts4 years ago I'm so terrible at sales, so if I'd try to do commission only I'd end up in the negatives somehow lmao it sounds like an absolute nightmare! 55
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    @whynotfrancis4 years ago “i was telling my boyfriend”
    sad wlw noises
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    @SanaraCats4 years ago I’m kinda happy you’re open about your previous drug use, it’s relatable. My memory is a shithouse 😂😂😂 29
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    @samanthal91144 years ago I almost joined one of these in Glasgow around the same time, it was awful, exactly the same as you described. I believe they were actually doing Sky/door to door fundraising for the BHF. It went to the group interview, thought it was a legit job, then did the field test, which was ok, basically going door to door trying to sell stuff. Then I realised I would have to pay to work, pay my own travel, get paid only commission. I was only 18 and desperate for work, and thank god my mum told me to RUN. ... 29
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    @nb12434 years ago Hahaha oh god, this reminds me of a “Marketing” job I once applied for. The job specification made it sound so good (too good to be true looking back, oh how naive I was) but when I went for my interview the guy literally drew a pyramid on a sheet of paper as he was explaining the job to me and I was sat there like 😐 “u wot m8?”
    Then I was expected to get in a car with a bunch of random men to be driven to a housing estate in the middle of bumblefuck nowhere to deliver leaflets through people’s doors. Major red flag. Safe to say I hopped on the first bus out of there and never looked back.
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    @MRPandoraHartDR4 years ago Selling Scottish Power, I took the job believing it was salary plus commission because I'd asked about that as I needed a guarenteed salary to be able to afford the rent. Found out it was commission only a week into the job, so I left. Mine was going door to door. They actually rang a bell in the staff room if you got a sale and they said the same thing to me about it being derogatory to want to 'earn a salary' when I left. I actually regretted leaving Mcdonalds for that job. ... 10
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    @Emma-zc5jm4 years ago I joined one of these in Leeds. Not just a cult, also a pyramid scheme... These are all the same company, under different names for each "manager"
    Genuinely want to cry I'm SO HAPPY someone with a platform is talking about these fucking places <3
    Edit: At the end of my first week, when I didn't get any sales because it was selling monthly charity donations on the street, my manager grabbed me by the shoulders and pushed me up against the wall and said "I expect more from you Emma", all while smiling.
    This was a Saturday, after the meeting I had that morning where they finally explained the business model, and it was made clear to me that my manager made the exact same commission I did per sale. So their salary was the sum of all of their unpaid (by them) employees combined. That why they hire as many people as they can handle. They don't pay them and they get the total sum of all of the salaries. I didn't come back the following week.
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    @mima_xx54824 years ago Actually crying at this! I had the exact same story. It is horrible they prey on people desperate for money. When I finally left I had a breakdown and cried and the manager told me to leave without saying goodbye to anybody!! The people I had spent a constant two months with absolutely mental ... 4
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    @callmehanson94664 years ago I remember after I got my degree and when I wanted to change fields, I tried going into marketing since I had experience in an honor's society. Went to a nice large building with a 20 person group interview where they were promising a $70k+ per year job with full benefits and commission selling cable packages to people with no college degree required. I raised my hand and asked how selling $60 a year cable packages and paying that much with benefits could allow a company to turn a profit (especially since they told a statistic where like 80% of people you approach won't make a sale). The presenter said he didn't know. Needless to say, I didn't get a call back... ... 13
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    @lucyhellier54104 years ago searched alizee about an hour ago
    had a shower
    and then there this was
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    @IOrganiseContentUK4 years ago I have actually been recruited for this exact type of thing, but in Yorkshire. Luckily realised that it was actually insane once they felt the need to justify why they weren't an MLM to me for an hour (I'm v lucky this all happened during COVID, and I never met any of these people in person, only on Zoom). They also shouted JUICE! They want you to do all of this training and do so much, for nothing but commissions (they wanted me to do 3 training sessions per week when I was finishing writing papers for my bachelor's degree). Then they convince you that you're working for a big company when really you're in a bizarre reverse MLM. And then they do these "positivity tricks" that make it so that if you're struggling for money it's only your own fault, and not the company's fault for only paying you commissions, despite expecting you to work 7-7, 5 days out of the week. If anyone gets swept up in one of these GET OUT ASAP. I'm serious, it is very cult like, demanding, they will not respect your time, and it isn't worth the commissions and no benefits. You're not even working for yourself, as they claim you are. It's all very sketchy (I don't even know the name of the company that I was "working for myself" for, for 3 weeks, so I can't even report it to anyone). ... 6
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    @angelaf.34904 years ago I got caught up with this least year right out of undergraduate because I was so afraid of telling my parents I hadn’t found a real job. Recently reconnected w my “team leader” after she left almost a year later. Said they all got COVID and the company endangered all of their health. It’s so toxic and watching this gave me chills...particularly when you said the “JUICE” thing. Literal same thing. So toxic - definitely a cult ... 2
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    @igotyou_blue69454 years ago I’m always convinced I’m on the shit list at border security, or that they’ll find all the cocaine that isn’t even in my luggage. Different kinda paranoid over here too bro. 101
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    @7BearSarah4 years ago I had almost the EXACT same thing happen to me a few years ago and I live in Dallas.
    I had a surprise group interview that sounded way too good to be true (I didn't go to college). The "second interview" was selling AT&T door to door in the blazing Texas heat for HOURS.
    I got serious red flags when they weren't telling us like anything and then I was ushered into the car of a guy I had barely spoken to with 5 other people and then driven an hour away from the city.
    I took a lyft home and never looked back.
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    @kelsorose92364 years ago DUUUUDE I GOT JUICED TOOOO!!!! I was hoping that’s what it was hahah. Did they not have ANY chairs in the office either ??? Shit was mad weird.. and the story is wild .. but I’ll save it and say I enjoyed this so much after a shit day. 💞 ... 29
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    @gemstonerose46484 years ago As someone who's gonna move to London soon I'm struggling to find a place where I can fit both horizontally and vertically. 16
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    @Camiiila234 years ago My brother is in one of these and the way you described it is so accurate... He's brainwashed, it's so sad :( 2
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    @captainjetpack4 years ago these memories seem genuinely painful for you, Alizee.
    thank you for sharing, hopefully it helps raise awareness for these types of pyramid schemes.
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    @pawsnpose4 years ago Just wanted to say thank you for your videos. I love your personality and humour, and the accent just tops it off perfectly! It's really helped to laugh with this crazy year. 2
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    @michellepage89234 years ago Years ago a close friend of mine introduced me to one of these businesses. Same sort of set up, I told my friend I would go with her to one of the conferences. It was all to do with cleaning products and make up etc. The problem is that you spend 99% of your time annoying everyone around you. Because your told Everyone is to be handled as a potential buyer. You never clock off really. And in the end you realise its only the top level in the company's that make enough to survive. ... 2
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    @juliadesrocher78044 years ago I used to work at a retail place that was a big athletic brand (I think you can fill in the blanks on which one) and every morning and sometimes at the beginning of the shift we had to do a "cheer" which was literally a chant before a sports game and it was one of the worst things ive had to do on top of working retail lol ... 6
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    @glowinglimes4 years ago I live in the US and accidentally fell into a sales cult because I was desperate to find a job out of college. Literally every detail you mentioned was exactly how my experience was, the sales acronyms, the leadership team meetings, the three stage interviews, looking down on the 9-5ers, encouraging you to cut off your family, commission only, etc etc. It's freaking standardized. I quit after 4 days, best decision of my life. ... 2
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    @QueenOfKarma4 years ago As an antiMLM channel who watches you this was amazing!! So many of us are trying to spread awareness about these companies and have been comparing them to cults...they are cults. So thank you for this 🙌❤ 4
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    @PriorP924 years ago This is like when Dee and Charlie tried to sell all those berries that cured "units" of stress 19
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    @Lady_op34 years ago I can relate so hard to this. I’ve had many jobs, and found myself so desperately wanting to get out of serving/bar. 6 years later I’m now going to my dream job in 3 days. Glad you made it out of that too 💜 3
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    @ronswasonbutcuter44744 years ago sees title were you in an mlm? That's how I would describe an mlm 108
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    @ANGELB0T4 years ago The bit at the end about wanting to check how hot something actually is, even if you deep down know it’s scorching... it reminded me of a time when I was about seven years of age and asked my father if the glass on the fireplace was hot, he jokingly said ‘well, you tell me’, and I put my hand onto the glass like an idiot (my father dragged me away before I could be seriously harmed, he felt bad, but I was just extremely curious) ... 2
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    @robinmoore72024 years ago Over here in the states, these poor people have to set up shop in Walmart or some such place and hawk crap, hour after hour. 14
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    @andrewSPgaynor4 years ago What's hilarious is the ad I got before this video was for an MLM sounding scheme.
    My sis is in an MLM and it's impossible to get through to her. I haven't watched all video yet, and you haven't said the company yet but if it's forever living my brain will explode ...
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    @HeraThea4 years ago I went to one of the interviews just to test out my interview skills because I had a pre-college program the next month while I was in between my Junior and Senior year of high school. At first I was like "okay this is cool" and then they said id have to purchase my own inventory???? Bitch what??? I accepted the job (but they do that to everyone) and then when they called and asked where I was i said I was in the next state over for the summer ... 10
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    @capir0te4 years ago Your disdain for selling people things is really the context I didn't know I needed for your shadow legends ads 1
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    @kingofdorks77814 years ago As someone who found myself in a commission only sales cult, I relate to this. The pep talks, the delusions of how much money they'll make, the fact that I lacked the confidence to tell myself I was shit at this job, all of it. It was horrible. ... 3
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    @mayrarara4 years ago Literally right as I’m getting ready to sit down for dinner...naturally this is what I’ll be watching now 6
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    @minkyb96494 years ago Lorrrrrrd this exact thing happened to me. Except it wasn’t selling to people in malls, it was literally door to door knocking in London until late at night in pretty sketchy areas. 👀 the amount of doors that were slammed in my face (unsurprisingly) lol ... 4
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    @elliecooper-haggan724 years ago Is it Avon? I’ve always got a cultish vibe from them. 143
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    @laystonbadham73214 years ago I had pretty much the SAME experience... down to the JUICE . They talked about having "London offices" so tbh our former MLM sales companies might be connected. So glad we got out of it, but they kept talking about how much they are a "family" and it was definitely culty. ... 4
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    @sandyyy_xo4 years ago I LOVE ALL OF YOUR STORYTIMES AAAH YES 1
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    @sweaters_and_harmony95252 years ago Yeah, I almost joined one of these Devil Corp-like groups in the states. Made it through the interviews, but bailed before my first day. What a relief! Glad you got out too.
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    @uberwench_4 years ago I love your videos so much gal. You’re completely genuine, and hilarious. Keep doing what you’re doing 💕 xx 2
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    @Cove_Blue4 years ago I think every young person that has to earn their own income has to go through something that proves, "if it sounds too good to be true..." Also my bestie and I signed up for one of these that had a kiosk in our local mall and I wanna say we worked for a few hours and then just left. Lol God we were the worst in our youth. ... 5
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    @MarkusAndersen964 years ago I basicly had the same type of work here in Norway, my first every job that I was desperate about. They found my CV on a website and contacted me. It's sales recruitment, they pick anyone and everyone they can find. I "aced" the interview, I was the perfect candidate even though I had literally 0 experience. After a mere 4 days of meeting the team and learning about the products we're selling, we went out to sell. The pay was 100% commission based, and if you didnt meet the required standard of at least 8 sales a day, they would have a "meeting" with you. After 3 meetings you were fired. We were selling telephone subscriptions btw.
    My first day out in the field (in a shopping mall) we were there for roughly 10 hours. That didn't include the morning meet-up with the daily pep-talk and brief, plus a meet-up back at the job on the end of the day. I tried to convince myself to sell this product, but my heart wasn't in it, and I hate pestering people who are only trying to buy their groceries. Safe to say that I quit working there the very same day. After 5 days only, haha. T
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    @MasterPlaythrough3 years ago I know two companies in London that do this exact thing. I looked them up on LinkedIn and saw the head people knew each other and were "besties".
    I also got drawn into this and the exact same thing happened. Except I left during the interview. They took us for a test day across London to essex. There the team leader picked me and a girl and left us in a KFC while she took the rest of the group to do some leafleting. She gave us a few tasks to do, which basically was just rewriting our CVs. We stayed for hours in a freezing cold KFC with no idea where the others were and when this team leader would be back. Eventually we just left without leaving a note or saying anything and went for a coffee in the mall nearby.
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    @abigailelizabeth60014 years ago I nearly got sucked into something similar too! Can’t believe how common it is really. You described literally the same sort of thing this other ‘company’ I know was doing. Luckily I left after I had a second interview with them. I found so many bad google reviews claiming they were an MLM, which was definitely the case. ... 1
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    @takerdust4 years ago if you have the energy to sell to anyone and work long hours, you might as well start your own business and make 2-3 times as much money, instead of shilling someone else's shitty products. 36
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    @Arktober-Ghost4 years ago thank you for blessing me with something to listen to while I draw yesss 2
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    @scent-bubbles4 years ago It's my second day dorming as a freshman in college and watching her videos is the only thing that makes me feel less alone, I swear to God 2
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    @HannahMeadows4 years ago I'm also the kind of person who when people tell me a plate is hot, wants to smash my face on the plate to see from myself, but like, then I listen to you talking and.. I don't wanna touch the plate anymore 2
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    @empiretalks59574 years ago damn, thanks for triggering my sales PTSD. this is too relatable, same shit happened to me in Newcastle 3
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    @maidobala4 years ago I almost fell into those rabbit holes, luckily my dad is a marketing expert and was like 'nooooooo never comission only, actually just don't go into sales directly' xD 6
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    @d4nny-san1304 years ago lmfaoooo both of those places sound like Wesser, Home Fundraising (Has finally gone bankrupt and shutdown) or Urban Leaf. I worked at all 3 of those places and my parents had to try and get me out of the contracts after they kept asking me to move into an area in the countryside that is JUST for Fundraising.... Never again!!! ... 9
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    @hurphenelondwil24194 years ago Alizee, while you have discussed these things before to an extent but I think we would all like to see content about the years of your struggles with dependency.
    As a fan and as one who suffers from chemical dependencies it would be really nice to know how things went for you and how you manage today.
    I don't think people would watch out of malice or to hold anything against you. I identify with you so much, it would be great to know your journey.
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    @Missab40004 years ago I’ve been on an anti-MLM binge today so this is perfect timing!
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    @jesse854 years ago The first minute and a half I couldn’t stop laughing MK ULTRA 😂😂😂😂 12
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    @CollyInSA4 years ago I hate these companies that take advantage of young people that need work and money. I honestly can't take the deceit! I almost went for one of those interviews a few years ago and luckily googled a bit and just never went! ... 1
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    @aridagamer4 years ago holy SHIT i experienced literally the exact same type of thing in Australia. they roped me in when i was 18, promised that if i did my job well i could make like $6000 a month, it was all commission based, in shopping centres too and it was all complete bullshit.
    one day my team leader told me i wasn’t depressed, it was just all in my head and i need to be happy and i’ll feel better and i was like dude my grandpa just died lmao.
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    @bigfishboobs4 years ago ur giving me flashbacks to the year I lived on a camping cot in my friends kitchen 1
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    @HelenaSaysRawr4 years ago This sounds a lot like call centres, they suck your soul out and I've met people who started in one at 16 and now they're 30 and still talking to karens about why they can't get a refund
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    @SOVADEA3 years ago My younger sister worked for something similar in the middle of a shopping centre, one of those phone kiosks trying to sell a service. She thankfully left it too not long after, since they had other workers get her to drive them to work (two hours away some days depending on location). For the casual hours and no fuel compensation, it was ridiculous. She deserves better, and so she's elsewhere now. ... 2
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    @darkhorsiesmedia4 years ago Omg a friend of mine is in one now! Works EVERY day, and has been told to recruit her own team (like a MLM), and any money she makes she has to spend on breakfast, lunch and dinner for her team, to stop them leaving! The sales team all live together now and she's dating one of them, so her whole life from waking to sleeping is this job. So sad. ... 1
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    @lorth74 years ago My mother is in a similar thing. Culty / MLM, not really legal here but they keep finding loopholes (same thing, they're all "self-employed"). We haven't talked in years. 2
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    @averagebritishwhiteboy35394 years ago All the advertising I got on this video was a money making scheme 😂😂 13
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    @Ina_56864 years ago I'm curious about all your stories! You've lived a wonderful life so far. Great video!
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    @drewberriesandcream4 years ago for some reason you have so much big sister energy i love it 1
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    @godbear29304 years ago I've been contacted by 2 of these types of jobs, and I spent the day with one of them, because I had nothing better to do, and that shit was crazy. Realized pretty quickly that it was bullshit but worth it just for the story. ... 6
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    @joefernandez80084 years ago I’m so looking forward to watching this while my accounting class plays on mute in the background. 24
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    @tinieacorn61514 years ago oh man i was involved in one of these "multi-level marketing" companies... for 2 weeks... they kept yelling that it wasn't a pyramid scheme... it sounds exactly like the one that I worked for lmao 7
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    @samiha25604 years ago this is so crazy because im from australia and i was in an IDENTICAL situation omg i didnt know they were everywhere 2
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    @rebeccamartens41924 years ago Same, girl, same... i ended up selling cable door-to-door. 22
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    @bedsidebetty4 years ago Watching this while ominous music from an old Nacy Drew game plays in the background hits different.
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    @Karrott2cents4 years ago I couldn't last a day in sales.
    I was told at the interview I would be selling to companies (full business meeting) but on the trail day we were selling Talk to BT customers around 3-5pm. They sent me home before the end of the say because I pointed out that this wasn't in the job description. ...
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    @rebeccadodd13944 years ago I accidentally applied to a doorknocking sales job a couple of years ago and had an interview with the boss. Then I got asked to go out for them with a day and it was the same kind of routine as yours, they had a little pep talk then went through their script. I really didn't want the job but I went along with it to an extent. But the team leader drove us all to a shopping centre just outside the city to get food, before taking us to the area we'd be walking around that day. But literally after eating, he pulled me aside, started talking about how good he is at reading people and had always had this 'skill' and finally got around to saying the job wasn't for me. I agreed, and he literally just went 'ok there's a bus stop over there that will take you back to the city' lmao the people who succeed in those jobs are actually the worst ... 1