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The Official Narrative of Tate Murders Doesn't Add Up w/Tom O'Neill | Joe Rogan

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    @mickeyandres26513 months ago And Hollywood still gives Polanski standing ovations led by Streep proving just how repugnant those hills can get. 654
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    @PInk77W14 years ago Manson looked into Scientology
    and said Naw that’s nuts.
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    @robertkees6048last year It's hard to believe that Sharon Tate would be near 80 years old today, and her unborn child would be in their fifties. A entire lifetime snuffed out. 435
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    @libertyjustice4847last year FBI and CIA involvement with Manson is nefarious 225
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    @bk25244 years ago Thumbs up for reminding the world Roman Polanski is a monster. Remember the list of celebrities who signed a petition for his exoneration 5737
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    @jaredtomochak49464 years ago I still can't believe more people don't talk about Roman Pulaski being a monster I'm glad to see these two calling him what he is 3642
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    @KimberlyLetsGo4 months ago My son read Chaos and recommended it to me. I listened to it on audio during a trip and I was enthralled!!! If you haven't read this book, you have got to. 60
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    @benbirch2393last year Anyone who thinks that polanski and the ruling class / elite had nothing to do with all of this debauched ghoulishness, is quite mad. 228
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    @Chrisfeb683 years ago Amazes me how the same people who support the Me too movement would give Roman Polanski a standing ovation. These are the same people giving speeches at the Academy Awards lecturing us. 1293
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    @jswets50073 years ago When someone who has spent 20 years writing a book about a single event says "I hate to speculate", you know he means it. 1619
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    @stregalilith4 months ago I was in LA when the trial was going on and paying attention although I wasn't a lawyer yet. Three things stand out to me after reading Tom O'Neill's book: 1) Vince Bugliosi was a known liar, very ambitious, and would say anything to enhance his image; 2) in thirty years as a lawyer, much of it practicing in Los Angeles, I have rarely seen anything as meticulously documented as Tom O'Neill's book, "Chaos"; 2) I was a law student extern at the ACLU a few years later and the information Tom has on COINPRO is spot on. Further, Tom's father was a well regarded member of the legal profession and helped him document his findings in an honest, ethical and professional manner. To me, Tom O'Neill's reportage is credible. ... 72
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    @katja63324 months ago Manson is the definition of crazy and Polanski is, to put it politely not a nice person, neither
    why Hollywood give those abusive men (Polanski, Woody Allen, Kinski, Weinstein etc) the credits for being "geniuses" is beyond me. ...
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    @WIZandRoLLiN3 years ago When authors go on JRE it’s a constant battle to give a good answer and not spoil the book they just spent years writing 974
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    @julzgulz19922 years ago My mother went to school with the LaBianca children. She can't even hear about the crimes it's so upsetting knowing her lovely classmates lost their parents this way. We often forget the victims of this crime and focus on the infamy and celebrity of the perpetrators. The son was just a normal, happy, popular high school student who lost his whole family and privacy. So tragic. ... 1669
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    @mykula7806 months ago That's right Manson never committed a single murder in his life but yet his parole was denied the three women that actually cut the baby out of Sharon Tate was paroled. Now please tell me if we don't have a Judicial problem in America ... 55
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    @jonathansebo5800last year My friend Tom found Sharon Tate’s body. It was his first day on the PD. He quit and became a lawyer. 73
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    @misterpurple40892 years ago The number of Hollywood types who simply ignore the evil of Polanski is astounding. No excuse for what The Family did to Sharon Tate and the other victims, what they had to endure was despicable. 1083
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    @iiscritical77953 years ago This is easily one of the best interviews Joe's ever done. Highly underrated in my opinion. 1198
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    @Tackytiger74last year I've never been able to reconcile just how Bugliosi could be such an ace prosecutor and brilliant author of Helter Skelter.....and at the same time be such a vociferous proponent of the Warren Commission's findings, the lone nut assassin and the magic bullet....Now I know....Great interview. ... 90
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    @socalcdelast year There's a lot of info that people never heard before in that book, but one thing that surprised me is that there was no mention of Bugliosi's assistant who was murdered during the trial. He was found beheaded I think in the Sespe Creek area of Ojai. I will never forget that because I was hiking in that area the weekend that it happened. ... 121
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    @gravypatron4 years ago I'm beginning to think Earth is a conspiracy. 979
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    @jean-lucpicard29144 years ago Thank god Brad Pitt was there with his dog. 2621
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    @ladadog39772 months ago Vincent Bugliosi came to Indiana University in 1976, and gave a presentation called Helter Skelter. He gave a talk after screening the film and it was very interesting. Most of us knew very little about the case, and we gave him a standing ovation at the end. ... 5
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    @susangavaghan9 months ago The claim that Polanski had forced Sharon to have sex with other men and filmed it came as quite a shock. Although what he did to the 14 year old girl was bad. What I have noticed about him is that all his movies tend to be very dark and involve abuse, often of women. Sharon should have stuck with Jay Sebring, whom she left for Polanski. Jay died while trying to protect her. I believe Manson was just an ex con who had learned mind control techniques while in prison and knew how to say what people wanted to hear. His followers were vulnerable people at a time when young people were looking for gurus and answers. Manson just used and exploited them - although it doesn't excuse what they did. The whole Manson thing never really made any sense to me - the hippy movement was about peace, love and opposition to materialism and the Vietnam war. Murdering innocent people because they were famous and wealthy just didn't add up nor was in keeping with the hippy ethos. ... 57
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    @mikecoxlong46814 years ago Who else goes straight to the comments to see if the vid is worth watching? Lol 2036
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    @LoverOfManyArts2 years ago This is why one should remain skeptical in cases like this, anything can potentially be covered up, fabricated, distorted. Don't trust "official" narratives at face value, think for yourself and research for yourself. ... 934
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    @smuschlitz7 months ago This is the first time I've ever heard anything about Roman being abusive to Sharon. Although, I've always wondered if Roman could've possibly orchestrated the whole thing. After listening to this guy, it doesn't seem so crazy. If Roman truly was a monster, then he could have easily paid Terry to hire someone to get rid of Sharon. So Terry seeks out Manson, who may have been the one lunatic he knew who could pull this off. If the payment was setup as half upfront, and rest paid after the deed was done, it would've given Terry a very legitimate reason to visit Manson at the ranch after the murders. I've always been unusually attached to this case, and after watching Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, all I could think of was why anyone that wealthy would leave their pregnant spouse alone, without any security measures in place. It makes more sense than attacking just a random house, for some obscure vendetta against the previous tenants. ... 36
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    @Glo7xlast year Doris Day wrote about Manson in her book. Doris's son Terry Melcher was a music producer who was the previous owner of the Tate house. Doris believed that her son was the actual target that night. Doris stated that Terry refused to give Manson a recording contract and that's why the Tate house was targeted. Doris believed that Manson thought that her son still lived in that house. The book is called "Doris Day : her own story" ... 53
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    @sjdprime65223 years ago This guy is easily one of the most interesting historians if you could even call him that to watch. Makes news from when my father was born sound like it happened yesterday. Great job. 570
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    @owlowl18842 years ago I read Tom O'Neill's book after I first saw this interview and recommend it. Very readable and informative. Very well documented. This man dedicated his life to exposing corruptions behind the scene. 869
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    @user-kp8sx1nh1c8 months ago When I read the book "Helter Skelter," I learned that Charlie Manson had been to the Tate house before. He was rejected in the "rock" world. They all should have gotten the death penalty for what they did. ... 13
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    @billreid8184 months ago I spoke to Tom Briefly a couple of years ago after reading his book. I believe I ran across a house near Vacaville where some Family members were squatting in 1977... I just wanted to relate the story to him. He was kind to me and receptive and didn't make me feel like an idiot like a few people have over the years when I told them about my experience ( It's a long story ) I highly recommend his book. It makes more sense to me than anything else I have read... These murderers have haunted me since 1969 when I was 11 years old.... ... 14
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    @oliviabarrow91053 years ago After dealing personally with psychopaths and sociopaths.. I realized the less you ask “why” the better. There is never an answer and they aren’t worth the time thinking about because they are not thinking about anybody but themselves. Period ... 564
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    @utbllc40574 years ago Manson knew that Terry Melcher no longer lived at that house. Several months prior to the murders Manson visited that house thinking Terry Melcher still lived there and Sharon Tate was there. That is a common misconception that Manson didn't know who lived at that house ... 105
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    @georgeadams82309 months ago Good interview and solid reporting.
    It seems like the last 50 plus years millions of dollars have been made off these poor people. This guy is legit but it seems like alot of people are trying to cash in on this tragedy, these were real people.
    Steve Parent was just 18, Jay Sebring didnt think of himself and tried to defend Sharon which Tex killed him, then you have Sharon pleading for her babies life and calling out to her mother. Yeah, these were real people who's stories were turned into mythology.
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    @brentsmock10444 months ago Steve McQueen had been invited to the party that night, but never went. Lucky for him. 9
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    @MasseurDavis3 years ago I wish the ending to Once Upon A Time in Hollywood was true. Takes a sick, evil demonic soul to kill a pregnant woman. 1066
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    @1958RBS2 years ago What a fascinating interview and Joe Rogan is genuinely interested and engaged. As an English person, I am baffled as to why Joe has been under such recent pressure and attacks as he is the perfect interviewer. 814
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    @bradleyroberts60507 months ago It’s crazy because since 2016 I complete stopped trusting main stream narratives. Before I saw this I had always looked at how they do stuff now and if they wanted to get rid of the hippy move my then that was the perfect way to do it. ... 19
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    @c.rackrock1373last month I bought Tom's book because of this interview.
    100/100 recommend.
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    @VenomHernandez4 years ago "No Good Gaw'Damn Hippies"
    - Leonardo DiCaprio
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    @jeremyparr94482 years ago Sharon Tate had been my grandmothers best friend from grade school until she was murdered. My grandmother was prom queen in Vicenza, Italy and Tate was one of the runner-ups.
    I've seen pictures of Tate when they were kids. Their parents were military.
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    @SevenGC892 weeks ago 3/3 for books I picked up because of JRE and loved them.
    -Chaos by Tom O'Neill
    -Fingerprints of the Gods by Graham Hancock
    -DMT The Spirit Molecule by Dr Rick Strassman
    highly recommend all 3 if you get the chance.
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    @danielabernal4961last month The true contents of that tape broke my heart. Poor Sharon. 3
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    @dirtyguava82094 years ago Author be like "How do I not spoil my book" 275
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    @sandranatali12602 years ago At the time of Manson Family, my family lived around 5 miles from the Spawn ranch. We. would see the family in their bus around the neighborhood, they would go to the supermarkets in the area, go through the trash bins for food. My friends and I would wonder about them but never tried to search them out. We decided they were trouble, so perhaps we had some fear. After they were arrested, we knew that we did right thing, by not allowing our curiosity get the best of us. ... 291
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    @odeleon2410 months ago What a great book. Hard to put down. Very engrossing. Well written. So many interesting characters. 24
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    @corrineagnello45845 months ago Excellent commentary. I read his book and Bugliosi’s, both are very good books. 3
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    @JamesWSmith-sj2zg4 years ago I cooked, stirred and ate an entire box of Kraft macaroni and cheese while watching this, and still nothing registered. 448
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    @rageagainstmyhairline55744 years ago Like Michael Cain says in 'The Dark Knight', "some men just want to watch the world burn". Some men want to see how much they can make someone do. Manson was not insane, just deeply narcissistic, cruel, and curious. A bad combination. ... 263
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    @jeffreyfernandez35407 months ago You gotta get the book. Chaos on audible is the way to go. Such a great listen 2
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    @connierenna-xf9um2 weeks ago I knew it!!! I’ve sensed all of these years that there was something not kosher about what we were being told. I was a teenager when the murders occurred, and I read Helter Skelter in 1977. 1
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    @kamilmalinowski12674 years ago RIP Sharon Tate, her baby and other victims. 757
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    @Gmacc1874 years ago "I'm guilty of thinking I had rights in a courtroom" - Manson 684
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    @brandonJThornton7 months ago Tom O Neil got me addicted to this story with his amazing book Chaos! It really is fascinating! 1
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    @Dontneedahandle07 months ago I’m glad they aren’t releasing it here in the states. The man taped a young girl, he doesn’t deserve to make ungodly amounts of money, while escaping prosecution. 2
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    @oceanhedonist2653 years ago I'll never forget sitting in my parent's house as a kid with some friends playing Monopoly. There was an interuption in the TV broadcast, and a newscaster came on to report that several people had been discovered slain in Los Angeles. It's something I'll always remember. ... 326
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    @lorihoop38312 years ago I'm reading this man's book now that's called Chaos, and besides cross referencing to prove the author's claims/points and watching interviews it's one that's very hard to put down. Actually loading myself up with caffeine now so I can read late into the night, it's that interesting. Mind blown, and this book/interview and many others I've perused through the years only reinforces the understanding of just how disgusting Hollywood and the music business is and how corrupt our government is. 😥 ... 202
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    @tr7b410last year Polanski had a history with movies that portrayed the darkness of Satan in a somewhat engaging manner.
    Rose Mary,s baby,the 9th Gate reflecting this ocvult hubris.
    This really supports the context that his wife's /child's murder was influenced by an occult storyline=his later exploitation of same.
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    @springsoleiluna90907 months ago Considering that Manson was sexually abused and he killed the pregnant wife of a child rapist the path to the motive isnt that hard to find 3
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    @cloud_monkey4224 years ago Since when has any official narrative ever been believable 218
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    @tommy11383 years ago "This Manson fella sounds like a real jerk!" ----- Norm Macdonald 68
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    @elessartelcontar94154 months ago A music promoter named Terry Melcher, that Manson thought was going to promote his music, decided not to do so. Manson knew where Terry lived (he was just renting a place on Cielo Drive). Terry moved out and Sharon and Roman moved in.
    Manson sent them to get 'revenge'
    on Terry and they killed who was there.
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    @ShanaAlversonFitness3 months ago This interview is 🤯. Great job Tom O’Neill 👏 1
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    @brusselsprout58512 years ago I’m 66 years old, grew up in the Bay Area during “the time” and have never been interested in the shadowy kind of glorifying the whole Manson thing. This is such a sensible approach that, for the first time ever, I am interested in reading the story. That Altamont and the end of that whole reign came up tells me this guy has pulled it all together. Sadly, intelligence keeps on pulling their bullshit on people. Excellent interview. I’m getting this book. Thank you. ... 116
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    @bobcourtier46744 years ago “I am one of your garbage people”. Even Manson was right sometimes. 187
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    @michaelharms76924 months ago Leslie Van Houten testified to Helter Skelter before Bugliosi was assigned. 3
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    @pauline9580last year I saw a clip of Roman directing her in a film I believe was something to do with vampire's (can't remember the name) but I was shocked at how he spoke to her,awful and disrespectful. She looked so forlorn being spoken to like that,I felt bad for her. ... 7
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    @kellyposh83763 years ago One of my earliest memories is being in downtown L.A. (We lived in the suburbs, about 30 miles away from downtown, but we would go downtown every once in awhile to pick things up like...copies of our birth certificates for school/sports activities. I’m guessing that’s why we were there that day). I must have been about 3 years old.
    This day stands out in my memory... I remember walking down the street with my mom and older siblings. We were walking near the courthouse...there were a bunch of people outside the courthouse. And I just remember my mom redirecting us to cross the street from all the courthouse commotion...she grabbed my hand aggressively...and her grip on my hand was so tight it was hurting me as she half dragged me across the street. I remember looking at all the commotion and seeing two women with X’s on their foreheads heading towards the courthouse.
    I didn’t put it together until I was a teenager.
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    @bigbthecat69994 years ago Went from funny cat videos to this, youtube is fun 281
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    @brianmccarthy5557last year Had me right up until the end when I realized this guy was nuts too. I was eleven years old when the murders happened and I remember rhe trial well. I've never bought the whole Helter Skelter thing. I'm more inclined to believe Satanism was involved and many powerful people in the enteryainment industry and Left Wing politics were peripherally involved. Enough to be extremely embarassing but not criminal. I wouldn't put anything beyond Polanski, who's a talented but very sketchy character. Growing up in LA, from a old LA family, I've had enough contact with Hollywood to know how evil it is. I try to keep my distance. I think that evil reached out and killed these people. ... 15
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    @ducklife420last year I met this guy years ago when he was first researching this book but never thought it would come out 5
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    @janberkemeier74062 years ago "That was the 'first' letter?"
    "There were three of them!"
    Mr. O'Neill's sudden outburst of almost childlike glee when remembering the (probably equally insane) other letters is frankly adorable. ...
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    @dannycolon57262 years ago The Man's theory is correct. Check out who Sharon's Tate Dad Was ..he was an Army officer who specialized in Psy Ops 136
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    @Bettboo2one week ago Didn't the perpetrators confess to their part in the murders? How could there be a conspiracy on what happened? 1
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    @subg8858last year Several Beach Boys songs are partially credited to Gregg Jakobson, but he was in management, not even a hobbyist musician. I suspect those songs were written by Manson, like Never Learn Not to Love, which is known as fact to have been written by Manson and paid for under the table by Dennis Wilson. The same guy listed as writer of all the songs credited to Jacobson ... 1
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    @princedaemontargaryen49712 years ago I love how Joe lets him speak and doesn’t cut him off! Good podcast! I know I’m late but I always rewatch and I was like I leave a comment. 44
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    @JohnDoe-cd6ro4 years ago Rosemary's Baby was basically a biopic. 36
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    @lenwelch2195last year I believe Tom wouldn’t steer us wrong. He has integrity. Hate to say it, but I can’t say hat about many people today. 2
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    @markj.62767 months ago And a similar tactic is being used on us today. Wake up people! 3
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    @stevenee1ply3 years ago He described a 21 century corporate executive. Fierce bullying followed by pathetic begging, then fiercely threatening then grotesque pleading. On and on.
    No shame and no honour.
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    @theoverunderthinker7 months ago the thing is: a prosecutor is trying to get a conviction, so the motive they present to the jury is going to be one making them more willing to convict them. therefore you cannot expect the prosecutor's stated motive given at trial to be objective; they are doing a job.
    so makes sense that what the prosecutor says the reason for the crime is something that is repulsive, because that would be more effective than something more mundane.
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    @tomking70803 months ago If you have not read Chaos yet, you definitely should. It took Tom over 20 years to write this amazing book which originally started out as a magazine article. Amazing book and highly recommend. I’ve read it twice over the years,it’s just so good ... 1
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    @TrequartistaFM4 years ago So Eddie bravo was right and Callen was wrong again? Not surprised 277
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    @majinvipergaming3 years ago "These groups were trying to incite violence"... Sounds like most groups these days. 35
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    @MercilessBreed7 months ago Moral of the story is dont trust journalists with your information.
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    @FarmhouseFelts7 months ago I did my 12th grade year end term paper on the Manson murders and only used Helter Skelter and news source materials for reference. I wish this book was available at the time because that would have made the paper way more interesting.
    Like people saying that the ranch had undercover agents and was under surveillance for months before the murders is crazy!
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    @misterdanielo32813 years ago This was one of the most interesting interviews. This guest REALLY knew this topic like the back of his hand. 35
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    @BatrickPateman4304 years ago Knowing Roman, knowing Hollywood I have no doubts in my mind that tape was real. 262
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    @lorisnoeberger678last year Also Doris Day wrote an autobiography in the 70s that says Terry left that house and moved in fear for his life 7
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    @johntoner56098 months ago Why bring Trump into a completely unrelated interview? 10
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    @yolandagaines17604 years ago Inciting race wars by violence 51 years later. This one shall FAIL too. 145
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    @yourmothercalledshesaid4763 years ago I remember reading a very gritty book entitled Sick City, where the MacGuffin of the story was an old 8mm reel of orgies that took place in the Tate household. The cast of characters in this book really stood out as depraved addicts that had no real interest in the film's contents, but only the opportunities it would afford on the black market.
    Good read, kind of like a grimy L.A. version of Guy Ritchie's Snatch, but the diamond was instead a snuff film involving Sharon Tate and instead of wisecracking British tough guys, it was instead a cast of colorful addicts from skid row.
    I want to give credit to my late brother for having the best taste in literature, culture, and history and leaving his niche library to me. Tony O'Neil would be just a name if it wasn't for my weirdo little brother.
    I miss you every day and can't wait to see you again.
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    @user-df8zq5nx8llast month I heard somewhere snuff films were found in the attic 2
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    @pipstrem54012 months ago I read this book and it‘s fantastic - i really admire your work, sir! People, please buy it 1
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    @birsay1234 years ago Italian cookies, coffee and lemonade = brutal heartburn 🔥 68
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    @DeidreL93 years ago To be honest, l have no idea what these two are trying to say. At the end of it all, all l know is that Sharon Tate deserved a hell of a lot better, both in her marriage and in every other aspect of her short life. Her murder is an absolute tragedy. R.I.P. Sharon, and your baby, and the other victims. ... 52
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    @martinishotone week ago I remember about 12 years ago Tex Watson wanting to get out of prison made an offer to the county of Los Angeles tell him that he could lead authorities to all the other victims and he said there were many killed by the Manson family. Some of the original detectives on the case we're still living and I remember the local Los Angeles stations engineering them and every one of them agreed on one thing. Even if they did not agree about the offer from Tex Watson they agreed with what he said about additional murders. They all agreed it's just a tip of the iceberg what we associate with the family as far as who they killed. They all agreed it's dozens of other people that they killed as well there's no doubt in their minds. Representatives of the DA's office said there's no way they will take his offer because they think the public will thing really badly about them. But even after saying that they admitted that they know Tex Watson knows what he's talking about. If we actually had the list and backgrounds of all the people that killed I think it would be interesting cuz it might start to indicating that this guy in the interview here is right. That maybe the Manson family was available for the agency to kill people that they didn't want to dirty their hands with. ...
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    @droidsxi3271last year My aunt lived with Manson on Skull Ranch... Some wild shit. 1