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This YouTuber Is Facing $11 Million Lawsuit For Exposing A Scam

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Upper Echelon and the lawsuit with Mario Nawfal by @UpperEchelon /watch/QExUmbcYRbbYU ► A͏s͏m͏o͏n͏g͏o͏l͏d͏͏'s Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/zackrawrr ► A͏s͏m͏o͏n͏g͏o͏l͏d͏͏'s Twitter: https://twitter.com/a� �s͏m͏o͏n͏g͏o͏l͏d͏͏ ► A͏s͏m͏o͏n͏g͏o͏l͏d͏͏'s 2nd YT Channel: /user/ZackRawrr ► A͏s͏m͏o͏n͏g͏o͏l͏d͏͏'s Sub-Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/A� �s͏m͏o͏n͏g͏o͏l͏d͏͏/ Channel Editors: CatDany & Daily Dose of A͏s͏m͏o͏n͏g͏o͏l͏d͏͏ If you own the copyright of content showed in this video and would like it to be removed: https://twitter.com/CatDanyRU

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    @KazaarTVقبل 9 أشهر now you know why Jim Browning isnt actually using his real identity to expose scammers 859
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    @ujjita7350قبل 9 أشهر if he openly admitted he was just gonna bleed upper echelon dry of money, cant that be used against him in court to show malicious intent to abuse the legal system? 439
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    @amigerred2141قبل 9 أشهر It looks to me like they lost a lot of money through NFT and are now suing people to get the money back somehow. 438
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    @PineappleZach666قبل 9 أشهر All I gotta say is defamation is really hard to win(For the person who's feelings got hurt) so most likely upper echelon will be fine. 381
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    @mariojosarقبل 9 أشهر many of this lawsuits are just a way to force silence and avoid the exposure, these people trying to stop the exposure of wrongdoings by the means of lawsuits id="hidden2" class="buttons"> need to remember what happened to the church of scientology, if you want to sue better be right because the door is open to a subpoena for evidence, witnesses etc. ....وسعت 117
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    @luckyluchiano72قبل 9 أشهر Coffee’s most recent video goes over a new MLM that threatened his life, his family, etc as well as a lawsuit. Hes dealt w scarier than “Logan Paul” but<span id="hidden3" class="buttons"> the point stands, and we do need people like this so we should support them when we can ....وسعت 74
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    @KamikazeSuicideقبل 9 أشهر Big ups to the community for getting his legal fees covered 31
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    @SixSonnقبل 9 أشهر Imagine if the United States did away with "Court Costs".
    The whole social dynamic in the country would change in an instant.
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    @cjking9693قبل 9 أشهر It's called a slap suit. Happens all the time. Big one that I'm aware of was Bob Murry suing last week tonight for airing a show about him and his company. 18
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    @DullBoy23قبل 9 أشهر Been following this for a while, and it would be a shame if this turns on UE. This dude does nothing but expose bs on social media, and I wish more content id="hidden5" class="buttons"> creators did this much research before releasing videos like these. Good juju upper echelon ....وسعت 69
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    @slifer135قبل 9 أشهر This is more about freedom of press then anything else. Because anything that this man provided in the "videos" was backed up with witnesses, id="hidden6" class="buttons"> and fully on investigative reporting. Something that these days is rarely seen. ....وسعت 18
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    @purposlyقبل 9 أشهر his name is literally bankman, the tiny hats are hilarious 4
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    @knschwaz2597قبل 9 أشهر Of course he is, BC the justice system IS pay to WIN, nothing more, nothing less. 65
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    @Bicassoقبل 9 أشهر "give me money" man is straight up and I approve 3
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    @CanadAssassiNقبل 9 أشهر That’s the stupidest thing they can do. So much dirt on them is going to be dug up during discovery 3
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    @scarletsletter4466قبل 9 أشهر Defamation is virtually impossible to win in the US. Upper Echelon will be fine, but I understand this is frustrating. 4
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    @Dragonbro91_قبل 9 أشهر Theres a reason the expression: What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth??? About 6 Months!.
    Even came about.
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    @ShamSoapقبل 9 أشهر The Quartering. LOL this dude is a big joke. How can I take this seriously when he brings his name up 3
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    @BDenjoyerقبل 9 أشهر This needs to get streamed like instantly 2
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    @dasberserkrقبل 9 أشهر When I started in the BC space he kept haunting me. Glad I didn’t listen to him. I’ve seen quite a few shady things coming from him and his team. 4
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    @raw_bacon_taco564قبل 9 أشهر When you think everything is a conspiracy yet never took a history class 4
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    @brandonbeene9266قبل 9 أشهر So the dude knowingly tried to influence him to double down in order to sue him for more damages? 3
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    @dudeluis14قبل 9 أشهر Bad people being bad is SOOOOOOOOOOO FATIGUING 6
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    @thewingedserpent5823قبل 9 أشهر "Believe" doesnt not mean "believe of faith". Believe just means "something you think is true" whether its based on good id="hidden7" class="buttons"> evidence or not. The difference to "know" comes from the fact that "believe" doesn't assert absolute certainty ....وسعت 1
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    @jeremyrichard2722قبل 9 أشهر This is days old but I wanted to mention two things. This will be long, especially the second part. Some might find it interesting though.
    1. When id="hidden8" class="buttons"> I worked in the resort/casino business I met a fair number of people affiliated with organized crime. One of the things they sometimes pointed out was that it could be a lot cheaper to hire a legbreaker or hit man, than a legal team. While they made no pretensions about being good guys, simply being right a lot of the time or not as bad as the 0other side is part of where the "honorable gangster" stereotype comes from. Such as the famous "Let me make you an offer you can't refuse" bit from "The Godfather".
    Not a suggestion, just the point that legal abuses ike this are not new, and when civilized justice becomes unaffordable, that's part of what these guys claimed to once offer an alternative to
    2. I just wanted to say that I do understand the exasperation over conspiracy theories. In the same place i was a fly on the wall for a lot of departmental manuvering and politics. Conspiracies are human nature.
    The problem in the US and other civilized countries is that our concept of freedom and privacy makes things basically impossible to prove. in cases where conspiracy is alleged I have long felt the burdern should not be on the accuser. Rather the accused should have to prove it is not true, but from that position can decide what to provide to prove the accusation false beyond a reasonable doubt, without having the entirety of their privacy violated.
    See, from watching such things as an outsider I've long felt the system as it stands now does not work, as oftentimes simply alleging something is "a ridiculous conspircy theory' is enough to defend some really unfair things which might be worse than what was alleged. I think if there is a given result, and someone questions that result in a serious way given what it looks like, then the beneficiaries should be requred to prove leigimacy, especially if something massive is at stake, or someone has something substantial to lose.
    Also remember in the US many things that would have been considered conspiracy theories are allowed to operate openly. I mean both major parties have huge national conventions that coordinate everything from finances, to activists, to talking points, right down to what talking heads you can even vote for. They both also prevent any other political parties from forming, representing any other major, organized, point of view. On top of that look at businesses, many corporations are so huge not even the most powerful governments can outright say all of what some of them own or control. You also have huge alliances of businessmen like Citigroup that coordinate global finance and activity. On a smaller level you have groups of businessmen who orga nized for shared benefit based on everything from shared religion (like say christian business owners or whatever) to religion, to sexual orientation.
    The point I'm getting at is that a lot of conspiracy theories don't need to have some kind of covert angle. i mean we know the Democrats and Rerpublicans set national strategies and such. We also know that you have different groups far smaller than that which openly work together for shared interest. One way to deal with a lot of problems would be to break a lot of these groups up. You don't need to be The Illumanatus when you can just declare yourself a global Super-PAC and do it all in the open and scream "right of privacy' at any country that might want to look at things. Think about that. You don't need a hollowed out volcano or fortress in the Bavarian mountains when you can just buy an office building or twenty and put your logo on the outside. Many of the groups like Citigroup don't even deny what they try and do a this point, it's about accountability and breaking them up, not proving conspiracy for the most part.
    That's sort of why right or wrong someone like Upper Echelon has an issue. These guys don't even need to be particularly secret about it, and as long as he stays within the system, it's difficult to do much. That's why groups like The Mafia started, they got sick of corrupt merchant lords running everthing and fuctionally controlling the system. Albeit they became just as bad themselves.
    Speaking for myself, if this guy is really that bad, rather than just doing a go fund me, I'd consider pleading my case to something like Anonymous in 4 chan. Oh sure, that might just get him laughed at or even harassed, but let's be honest, sometimes something like this does catch the fancy of the primal chaos of the internet IF it is honest and well intentioned. They have shown an odd sense of justice at times. That might do more than trying to fight this in court ever would. it would of course depend on him being right, and above board, and perhaps more than anything, tickling their fancy.
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    @timothymoore2966قبل 9 أشهر Ppl doing dirt out here get butt hurt for being called out so they sue and lose and aren’t punished for lying. Crazy
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    @carlthejexican7551قبل 9 أشهر I feel like these people who file defamation suits don't realize they need to prove the claims are lies and it was purposely malicious. Judge is gonna id="hidden9" class="buttons"> laugh at this one especially after he said he was gonna bleed him dry. ....وسعت
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    @omega1231قبل 9 أشهر Man sues to keep his dirty laundry out of the public eye? Let the streisand effect commence!
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    @briancollins7296قبل 9 أشهر i thought NFT's were about your position as close to the first token as possible on a server and you're rewarded with some graphical representation id="hidden10" class="buttons"> for having spent money for your position, not ownership of the graphic. ....وسعت 3
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    @vercingetorixavernian8978قبل 9 أشهر OTK been in lots of court cases lately! They hammered back at a lot of lawsuits! Henry been going thru the docs it’s very interesting. OTK strong 1
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    @holysecret2قبل 9 أشهر It would be nice to link to the gofundme in the video description 5
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    @WarGhoulKharasقبل 9 أشهر We need Vexatious Litigant laws in America. 7
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    @flosonasty7320قبل 9 أشهر been watch UE for many years. Love his content and i hope he wins. He probably will, dudes not stupid 28
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    @kryde101قبل 9 أشهر hey why you delete last diablo POE/diablo 4 video? 2
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    @eXitus4lifeقبل 9 أشهر Wasn't there a law against such lawsuits? Anti-Slapp or something like that I believe.
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    @jkutynaقبل 9 أشهر The best way to ask people to give you money on the internet, is to say you're making Star Citizen.
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    @Boelias1قبل 9 أشهر Its actually crazy, all speech should be free unless its deemed actually dangerous. Hate speech and bad remarks shouldnt be "banned" should happen id="hidden11" class="buttons"> in the first place but telling people how they can talk or not is wild.
    Everything can become a conversation no matter how degenerate it is, sometimes necessary for people with crazy ideas, neo-nazi or whatever it is to argue against them. If they is no conversation who is gonna argue why its wrong or how its wrong. we need to speak about hard things more and not less.
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    @jffish5149قبل 9 أشهر He needs to focus on the lawsuit does not get into another coin just to find out, someone played their trap card.
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    @MzCatieShortsقبل 9 أشهر Legit said last year with QuantumTV "If he wins this, it sets a bad president moving foward on the platform"
    and it feels like its getting abused more n more all the time now
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    @Aurkus23قبل 9 أشهر Lawsuits are serious things. It weighs heavily on you both monetarily and mentally, its very draining. 4
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    @IvanFazekasقبل 9 أشهر "Maximum Sweat". Or. Can't knock the hustle.
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    @trovarionقبل 9 أشهر Imagine quoting TheQuartering as if he was a legitimate source. 5
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    @Seb_Falkorقبل 9 أشهر Bruh Mario saw his Doom Eternal review and said he was gonna ruin this man’s life lmao 2
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    @tokiwartoothقبل 8 أشهر UE is such a good dude, I love his content.
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    @TheBigHitBanditقبل 9 أشهر The conspiracy rant around is based but also a possible intentional consequence. If you get to a point where you never question anything because its too exhausting "they" (whoever they are) win. ....وسعت 2
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    @TheArchitectOfDreamsقبل 9 أشهر You can sue someone for using the wrong toilet.
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    @dr.zoidberg8666قبل 9 أشهر Aamon is right about "free speech absolutism." Everything has limits. Harassment, threats, defamation, inciting others to violence, all great examples.
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    @WillCarter1976قبل 9 أشهر It's called lawfare for a reason. The process is the punishment. 1
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    @Amyanteقبل 9 أشهر It may be part of their legal tactic, if he puts all the information out there then this NFT guy will know what to expect in court.
    The best approach id="hidden15" class="buttons"> is to have him trip himself up, best odds of making it an open and shut case.
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    @ButterPantsقبل 9 أشهر SBF is just billionaire speedrunning at this point
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    @StretchNZقبل 9 أشهر This sort of stuff pisses me off. I feel like there should be consequences for someone withdrawing a lawsuit when the other party says let's do this. id="hidden16" class="buttons"> Not sure what that looks like when money is involved, but I've seen this same BS with 1 YouTube trying to copyright strike another in this same manner. I feel like if you lose that attempt you should take the strike. Like as if everyone starts with 3 strike credits, are you prepared to gamble with false claims. There should be consequences for bad actors ....وسعت 1
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    @Asylum247قبل 9 أشهر Upper echelon provides the same value as coffeezilla when it comes to his articles and research be definitely a channel that should be 5
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    @austinm5630قبل 9 أشهر It doesn't matter even if he does reveal all his cards. "The truth is an absolute defense to a defamation suit." That's legalese. In plain english, if the defendant can prove to a reasonable degree of certainty that his defamatory statements are true, then he wins the case by default, usually on a Motion for Summary Judgment long before a Trial. Therefore, UEG's best defense is to lay it all out. If what he claims in his videos is, in fact, all true, then the case will never make it to a trial. Which, among other things, will cut his legal bills in half.
    I watched UEG for years. I stopped because I honestly do not care about this drama crap he digs up, and his style would be best described as "abrasive" (much like The Quartering and several others who I seldom disagreed with, but still got tired of hearing.) That said, I've never doubted his integrity. Nothing he says as a factual statement is said without evidence or sources who have no obvious incentive to lie. He's got as much journalistic integrity as the best of them.
    So yeah, he'll win the lawsuit most likely. Sadly, the case is filed in New Hampshire which as best I can tell lacks an anti-SLAPP statute, so he's probably not getting his attorney's fees back. He might want to contact the EFF though. This is exactly the kind of case they tackle, and when they take a case, they do so pro bono.
    Sauce: I've been a certified paralegal for 18 years.
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    @Endeva09قبل 9 أشهر This is literally ridiculous - that screwed up by banking on a return on NFTs, now it's because obviously bullshit (it was anyway) they are trying to do anything to claw money back.
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    @natem9770قبل 9 أشهر I’ve found there is a tendency for these “watch dog” channels to go looking for scams and problems when there aren’t any, Or to make them out to be bigger than they are. That said, it’s my opinion that upper echelon is a good channel in this space. ....وسعت 6
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    @redpowerranger6365قبل 9 أشهر The text messages shown are easily grounds for dismissal on the basis that it's a SLAPP case. Mario is fucked.
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    @RogueGunnقبل 9 أشهر I can see you've never met a Rothbardian
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    @thalanothقبل 9 أشهر was going to comment/message somewhere the other day that you should look into this, then realized how ridiculous that was because of COURSE you were gonna make a vid on it lol
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    @alpham777قبل 9 أشهر Not gonna lie SBF has some drive even if it is for stupidity lol.
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    @V1Speed360قبل 9 أشهر Luckily law suits are mainly to scare.. you can name whatever price you want in a law suit if you’re filing it.. the shitty part is it’s on the person being sued to lawyer up and not allow the suit to actually proceed to that point which is a lot of attorney fees. Shitty.. ....وسعت
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    @Jamer508قبل 8 أشهر About the comment you made about how money can be made by people who are having legal issues like this. In this type of scenario they don't want to id="hidden22" class="buttons"> put everything out there because they're legal team likely doesn't want that to happen either. It's important that the chain of evidence and the cleansliness of the information gathering is upheld so that it's clearly definable in court. If you quote" lay it out" You might run the risk of contaminating your evidence pool. ....وسعت
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    @Yaroshi86قبل 9 أشهر What was the name of the other channel like UE that did like video essays. He head that vcr looking screen on his videos.
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    @lehran2516قبل 9 أشهر This is really gonna feed this dudes already inflated ego super hard. He is in the right though, so I'll throw him a few dollars if he just says " Doom Eternal is literal FPS perfection."
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    @csguy3223قبل 9 أشهر Ok so here’s the thing. Technically this scammer guy can win the lawsuit if he can prove many of the claims were not accurate.
    Even if the claims are all inaccurate, they still appear to trend toward the truth being that this Mario guy was a scammer.
    If you want to expose people like this you need to make relative statements that are pretty easy to defend without using specific numbers. You don’t have their books. You can’t know all of the numbers 100% accurately.
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    @TheRuteflyقبل 9 أشهر Conspiracy or not. We need to focus on living OUR lives, with people that matter to US.
    Get off the internet! Call your mom, tell her you love her. Its that simple.
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    @Belnick6666قبل 9 أشهر just make it so that if you do not win a lawsuit you start, you have to pay 4 times the amount you wanted to take from the person you sued and give that person that. that way companies will only go after real things 11
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    @DearNoobsقبل 9 أشهر what if this dude put the YT Ch under a holdings company or LLC to mitigate/limit some of these events?
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    @ODHardingقبل 9 أشهر see if he can get pointers from Legal Eagle
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    @hellraiser666666قبل 9 أشهر sad thing is that most "perdictions" came true in the last 3 years. so there is that Zack. 3
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    @th3guardقبل 9 أشهر Million dollar lawsuit and the your Twitter meme name comes up
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    @Xsorusقبل 9 أشهر My favorite part was the Quartering admitting he was apart of a propaganda group and just thinking people will listen to him now lol. 1
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    @higherlearning9386قبل 9 أشهر I like Upper Echelon , he is a good guy and deserves our support on this, So sick of Crypto Millionaires doing this to creators (we hardly hear about it id="hidden27" class="buttons"> publicly) If you have an extra 5-10 then donate it please. Thanks for reacting to this Asmond, Hopefully h3 gets in on it also. ....وسعت 1
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    @killroy421قبل 9 أشهر Wow. I seen this guy so much in Spaces. Not surprised to see this at all
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    @havyglassقبل 9 أشهر Don’t touch it with a 10k foot pole Asmon.
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    @FailingGH3قبل 9 أشهر Make it a criminal act to lose a lawsuit. if you lose, you were wrong, you brought mental and financial harm to others and wasted many highly paid hours id="hidden28" class="buttons"> of professionals. You can sue, but if you lose, its the slammer for the plaintiff, and full reimbursement + lost hours paid for the defendant. This would mean people would only really sue if they know they can win i.e they have a legitmate case. If its proven to be frivolous or untrue, jailtime is used to prevent future suits. ....وسعت
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    @sod0mقبل 9 أشهر I fully support what this guy is doing, however, while I understand his frustration, every time he calls the guy "sleazeball" he's opening id="hidden29" class="buttons"> himself further and further up to a defamation suit. Claims like these are a minefield, and I'd like to see him avoid a suit and keep reporting. ....وسعت 15
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    @anannoyedpandaقبل 9 أشهر Mario looks like a dude straight out or Hustlers University lmao.
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    @XionicAiharaقبل 9 أشهر I use to be a long time subscriber of Upper echelon. But his recent videos within this year alone feel more like him ripping on people, who of course did id="hidden30" class="buttons"> crappy stuff, but are mere nobodies or don't affect the common person. It started to become for of a platform for complaining about things and it just got old for me. The guy does his research, but it's just becoming too much ....وسعت 3
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    @IIKnucklesIIقبل 9 أشهر Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
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    @dawafflesupremeقبل 9 أشهر This is all over asmonbalds head, but he’s doing his best 1
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    @WilliamBrowningقبل 8 أشهر I love hearing capitalists debate and discuss what constitutes 'ethical' versus 'unethical' exploitation.
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    @insight_lolubadقبل 9 أشهر Your for all speach or your for no speach at all.
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    @GhostDumplingقبل 9 أشهر Diablo just nerfed the funnest thing in season 1 (the barber heart) because they listened to players who couldnt understand why their damage wasnt registering, id="hidden31" class="buttons"> they said it was bugged and was getting absorbed by other player's barbers but the sad truth of it is they suck at games and dont understand effects they put on their characters. ....وسعت 2
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    @iV587قبل 9 أشهر people can say w/e they want to say, others can then sue whom ever they want to sue. welcome to america
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    @mikerope5785قبل 9 أشهر Free speech absolutism is on its surface an incoherent position to take, given that harassment and assault are crimes. 2
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    @tomikaze777قبل 9 أشهر Upper Echelon is a good dude. I don't always agree with him, but he's a good faith actor. 2
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    @MoreTechnickelقبل 9 أشهر Can confirm Mario is an absolute nob and the biggest scammer of them all 1
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    @treesuschrist1782قبل 9 أشهر While I completely agree that failing crypto bros need to be called out and should in no scenario have the ability to silence people just doing their job, id="hidden32" class="buttons"> I also have a hard time feeling the push to put any money down to help someone calling dont walk, run "an excellent youtuber" when he's just your typical far right wing grifter, or the quartering whos your typical ragebait tuber. ....وسعت 3
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    @matrias7879قبل 9 أشهر I dont get American law if im sued in my country and they lose they have to pay my law bills/lost time from work, job opportunities lost and even a stress id="hidden33" class="buttons"> tax so if you know your in the right spend big on lawyers because the false lawsuit will fuck them up. ....وسعت
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    @guyopitzقبل 9 أشهر I love conspiracy theories. My IQ is 136. I come from a whole family of geniuses and inventors. It's a bit of a cop out to say that we are 'low id="hidden34" class="buttons"> IQ' just so you don't have to be exposed to uncomfortable truths. Conspiracy theorists are just a little masochistic, we want to know the truth even if it's ugly and most people would rather hear the pleasant lie instead. ....وسعت 10
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    @ancalymeقبل 9 أشهر The Quartering was the guy who raged for months because She-Ra, a children's cartoon aimed at children, wasn'as sexy as the original version.
    Take what he says with a fistful of salt.
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