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@krupadrum8 months ago This generation Forester XT is now regarded as a classic. I own one and they are special 👍 6
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@HoofHearted2DAY8 years ago Great subjective review! I'm originally from a small town in the tropical north of Australia where EVERYONE has a Subaru, think coz it's like America's Colorado, where all wheel drive's an asset due to winding mountain roads, wet climate but in our case HEAVY monsoonal seasons (not snow like Colorado). Late 90s when my mum got her first new car & I picked the first generation Forester, coz all her friends were driving 'Gravel X' trim Impreza Sportwagons with raised suspension/two-tone paint (which the Forester was based on) & they always had stickers on the back windows noting the championship Rally heritage. They're rugged cars - circa 90s anyway. We loved that thing as fit the brief perfectly, except the looks... we'd call it the ugly "breadbox". It crossed flooded creeks, took us camping in the Aussie outback, drove us through cyclones, stuck to the mountain range road in torrential rain even if there was an oil spill & other cars were spinning off the road - was like a rock on wheels, albeit an ugly rock.
Subaru's ethos is very customer orientated, we used to get a bunch of surveys from asking about what we liked about the car & what we'd change. It's very much a brand for simplistic 'does what it says on the tin' types, brand loyalists & adventurists. My mum drives a boring bloody Camry now thanks to my stepdad but my sister just upgraded her Liberty B4 to the latest WRX. She said if she's gotta drive 50kms of wet winding mountain ranges to get to work & take the kids to school, then she's gotta have an incentive lol. ... 32
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@oddities-whatnot7 years ago I love the Forester. To me, its the sort of car I would keep for years. It wouldn't date because its a Subaru. Tough, reliable, a car that is bought by people as a deliberate choice because of everything it stands for. A car for the individual who hates the plethora of bland Euro boxes that seem to fill our roads in the UK. This is a classy car that doesn't need to follow fashion. Can I have one please :) ... 22
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@CT37BN8 years ago I really admire Subaru for being a simple/honest but properly competent all-weather vehicle. Their engine spec/drivetrain configuration hasn't changed for ages but still beats out a lot of the competition. The cabin on that Forester looks attractive and practical enough as well. Another top one Thomas. ... 9
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@TrIpMo1981last year Buying a Forester XT. So i have been looking at many reviews of the car. This one is the best review I came across.
Thank you Thomas. 3
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@me29958 years ago You're the best man, no other reviewer comes even close. 38
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@wouter2110818 years ago Very professional, personal and in-dept look without any rush..... a perfect example how a real review should be, brilliant! 4
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@tokekkk8 years ago Got a pre-facelift Forester XT, good thing i love about this car is the visibility. Glass area is the best in its class.
Kinda sleeper car too, conventional / oldschool looking car with 6-7 seconds 0-100 km/h.
2 years of ownership and i'm really satisfied with the performance and capabilities.
Great in depth review Thomas (as always) =) ... 6
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@didier21242 years ago This week I have watched many Forester reviews, nobody else comes close, this is so good. 2
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@MycoolzBadSelf8 years ago Hey Thomas and crew,
Thanks so much for this review—and all the others!
I bought a naturally-aspirated (2.5-liter) Forester last month, and I'm sure you're right about the less powerful engine better suiting the vehicle's personality. Acceleration, while not hair-raising, is certainly adequate, and I've been averaging around 30 mpg (7.8 L/100 km) on lower octane fuel in mixed city-highway driving.
Anyway, danke nochmal!
Cheers from Kentucky!
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@gritnltw8 years ago Thomas, another great review.
I like, and agree, with your comment about being "timeless". However, yes, it may look like a car that was built some years ago but also it is a car that will look (and hopefully perform) good in the future as well.
I like Subaru's direction of building cars-tools and deviates from the trendy / over-designed, over-digitalized-connected approach of European, N.American manufacturers. It feels like Subaru still makes cars that are conscious choices for drivers and not just "car consumers" ... 10
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@jumpingmameko18222 years ago Nice video. I bought XT after watch this video, very good car thanks! 3
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@torgny03 years ago Nice, professional and interesting feedback! Thank you! I own a 2015 XT with an overall 9.8l/100 over 30k km (mainly highways with Cruise Control and city drive). It can be pretty thirsty if you want to play hard on the throttle (14l). It's a-very - good car, keeping the best of old fashion: simplicity, practicity. When you want to accelerate from 0 to 100, better use the S mode. is better to overtake or mountain driving when cornering on hills! In that case, better to take control on the rev with the shifters to limit the boring CVT effect and get the best boost. ... 2
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@matthewdyczek9388 years ago Hi Thomas,
Subaru's Lineartronic CVT enables the driver to select programmed gear ratios via use of the paddle shifters on the steering wheel, in effect emulating some characteristics of true automatic and manual transmissions. For example, a great use of the paddle shifters is for the driver to command engine braking, which has the CVT select a programmed gear ratio that it sticks to, say, throughout the duration of a downhill slope. Other than that, the use of the paddles can also enable smoother takeoffs by the selection of a higher 'gear ratio' when starting from a standstill. It can also prevent wheel spin off the line on slippery surfaces.
These are just some of the functions and uses of paddle shifters in CVT equipped cars, not to mention better management of fuel economy and power.
Nonetheless, a great review Thomas! ... 30
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@sacadosify6 years ago Nice review! We just bought the 2018 Outback model in the USA. We compared it with the Forester and found it slightly more comfortable and not as noisy on the highway. We also like the roomy cargo area, but the main feature for us, which is not always mentioned in reviews, is the amazing ground clearance you get with these vehicles. The 2018 has 8.7 inches of clearance, which we really need where we live. I really liked my previous vehicle, but because of our rough winter roads and dirt roads, this car with AWD and excellent ground clearance privides superior handling. ... 2
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@75dlow7 years ago One of the best car review channels on youtube - keep up the great work 3
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@sapientbudgie56528 years ago There is no SUV (in north america), that has 250hp turbo, eyesight technology, xmode, hill decent control, 8.7" groud clearance, steering responsive headlights, rear heated seats, heated steering wheel, memory seats etc.. Forester Xt with eyesight is by far the best suv in the segment. ... 65
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@jthomnsw8 years ago Great review - very interesting that the older style packaging of the car is so useful in terms of space. It is a good when car makers choose function over form especially for a car like a SUV with some moderate off road capability ... 4
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@nairolfnednilruz6 years ago Ich mag Deinen gemütlichen, freundlichen und auch leicht verspielten Stil sehr, nicht so ein schnelles Abwickeln.. ich fühle mich, als ob ich eine Tierdoku schauen würde. Sehr gut machst Du das, danke Dir! 3
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@ganapatihegde10247 years ago Awesome review, very well organized and structured commentary. Detail oriented and easy to understand. 2
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@warrendorr89717 years ago This is the best review of the 2017 Subaru Forester that I have seen. It was very thorough, and I especially enjoyed your personal insights/comments. Also, the video and audio was top notch. I have owned several Subarus in the past (1973 was my first), including a WRX. My next purchase will likely be a Forester. I'm patiently waiting until Subaru does a complete makeover of the Forester, which I hope will be no later than the 2020 model year. Although it is a great vehicle and enjoyed by many here in the mountains of western Maine (we have snow nearly up to the windows at my house), it is getting "old in the tooth" as they say. In the meantime, I will look forward to watching more of your automotive reviews. Thanks again for such a superb and professional presentation. ... 1
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@rommiemex95327 years ago love your reviews and analysis. thanks for taking the time to do it, from Australia 1
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@ruscalable6 years ago thanks for the very thorough review! and thanks to the cameraman too for keeping everything looking and sounding great
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@amirdieselx647 years ago Hi Thomas, love the videos I'm in the USA and I watch, very informative and love your opinion. Thanks :) 1
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@ssilviu4 years ago The CVT on the Subaru XT simulates shifting up to 8 gears in the S# (sport-sharp) driving mode, and 6 gears in the Sport and Intelligent driving modes. This is what the shifting-pads on the steering wheel are used for, and the left +\- switch in the gear selector manual mode ... 1
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@leedaq77676 years ago i'm watching this review in 2018 but your review, it's really detailed and very calm review !! keep it up
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@WYXYXYW8 years ago Hi Thomas, thank you for the time given for this nice review! I like this nature, that place where you were standing, and the car color of course ;)
Now, despite its exterior design doesn't call me (I appreciate you described it "classical look"! I could feel the very good built-quality here, I appreciated more its interior with the feeling of a very good quality as well! For me, people who are not looking for a very beautiful exterior design, but only care about practicality, functionality, price and agent facilities, then this car is not bad at all as an answer! :) ... 1
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@nelsonpagel21756 years ago Great objective review, appreciate the cons and pros of your review. I just bought a Forester. 1
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@Grant06106 years ago I like the Forester. It's very no-nonsense design and good, solid, built to last. The design is never going to set the world on fire but it is all you will need. The boxer engine sounds great too! It is not trying hard to be something it isn't. Good, honest car. The only fly in the ointment is the horrible CVT gearbox! ... 1
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@marinoint8 years ago Thank you for another great review!
Really appreciate it.
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@ukvamp4 years ago the reason why the turbo gauge was showing a minus depends on the exact setup, but in general turbo is located before the throttle, and the boost gauge is measuring pressure after the throttle in the intake manifold.
Even while the turbo is spinning and pressurizing the intake piping, the throttle is blocking that pressure from reaching the intake manifold. Thus, the gauge reads negative pressure as the engine pumps against a closed throttle. ...
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@artemusje28 years ago First of all I definitely like this blue, very beautiful!
The car itself is quite nice, the old school rugged look works quite well here and also the interior is not bad at all. I can see why people would choose this one over the more polished and refined alternatives. And if you do serious off-roading and/or use it as a workhorse it's likely the better choice..
I'm not a fan of the CVT, but they do seem to simulate gear shifts when going full throttle in sport mode, by letting the revs jump up and down between 5000 and 6000. Not a bad idea, the new Honda Civic seems to do that as well ... 2
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@ronkemperful7 years ago I just bought a more basic, 2017 Subaru Forester with the cloth seats and the standard, normally aspirated engine. Even though I live at 6 thousand feet ( more than 1800 meters) the engine keeps up with traffic with the added bonus of better fuel economy and perhaps a little quieter ride. Compared with my old Prius the Forester is quiet like a luxury car and it has a much better view out. I like the lane-keeping and braking systems that warn and direct you if I get too careless. To me the only needed feature that is missing is a full-blown hybrid system which to me is more useful than a turbo for better fuel economy and acceleration. Thanks for your great review as always and for the taste of Germany, where I was born 60 years ago. ... 1
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@antonioguimaraes96168 years ago Great review, Thomas. I subscribed to your channel not too long ago and have to say that your reviews are too notch.
I actually have a Forester exactly line this one, but with beige interior and it's a 2016. The SI-Drive (those pesky little buttons on the steering wheel you played with) is one of the features that convinced me to buy this car. The three available driving modes literally change the car's driving behaviour, but it won't show at WOT, like you did. The three driving modes really stand out on twisty roads, where the SI-Drive changes throttle mapping, transmission response and transmission gearing. One can really get three very distinct driving experiences through those three modes. Ohh, and on S# you get 8 predefined gears (both on manual and drive) while in "intelligent" and "sport" two you get 6 gears in manual mode and the classic cvt action when on drive.
And keep up the good reviews!! You now have at least one subscriber from Rio, Brazil... :) ... 2
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@timefliezby8 years ago I wish you could get your hands on a 2017 Subaru STI and give your review! I really enjoy watching all of your full reviews!
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@medhatramadan4728 years ago Thanks Thomas for your great review I like your simplicity too much 1
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@larry80658 years ago "S#" means "Sport Sharp". The "#" isn't a hashtag, it's a musical symbol for "sharp" 34
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@adrianbantinesti92194 years ago THE BEST CAMERA POSITION! SEE THE DASHBOARD AND ROAD! 1
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@liamburke16198 years ago Hello Thomas, I love all your videos and I think the are the best out there. Where did you film this video? I like the look of this city.
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@hrundgren43528 years ago Thank you for a nice review, it was entertaining and informative to watch. One small comment on the cabin noise in your review; it looks like you had the sun roof inner panel opened up while driving on the motorway. Closing it up reduces the cabin noise so that would have affected the noise during your drive in a negative way.
I drive an older Forester XT and the difference with/without the sun roof panel closed is noticeable.
Regarding the cargo space: the passenger seat can be folded back (after sliding the seat forward to the front position) which gives you plenty of room for laying out long items over the passenger seat. I can place a stack of 65 cm wide and 305cm long boards inside the car cabin in my older Forester. This newer Forester should be able to take similar or slightly larger sized items.
Keep up the good work and all the best! ...
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@smugglerscoveconsulting8457 years ago In addition to my comment below, I live in Alaska, and often for many months out of the year, can use the generous ground clearance of the Forester and its' great off-road handling, especially in snow.
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@tjarsun8 years ago I really like this vehicle, it has a good ammount of "old-school" for a SUV, without going to the extreme of separate chassis and body (like Toyota Fortuner, Ford Explorer, Chevrolet Trailblazer). Also that engine is amazing! ...
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@mlee61368 years ago Nice, accurate and thorough review thanks 😀
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@edb55378 years ago Great review - very detailed! Thank you!
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@mattj96938 years ago Thanks Thomas. It was worth the wait. Shame no off road - it would have impressed. I like it and so am probably a bit old-fashioned myself! It feels like my current Mk4 Golf estate - practical, solid, honest.
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@DecensMagazin8 years ago Dear Thomas, you make always fantastic and precisious tests. Now I suggest about the "minus turbo pressure" is not the pressure of turbo, but the pressure of the air intake tube. Before the turbo starts, the engine is in suction mode, means real minus comparing with atm. All the best, and thanx for your tests! Adam ...
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@p0r0sen0k7 years ago Really good review man! Im thinking of getting one for my wife) Cheers from Canada)) 1
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@systemfails8 years ago i really like this vehicle, Thank you thomas it is nice to see you testing vehicles.
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@kevcaster3 years ago I came to my Forester from a Mercedes C350 and found the interior equally high quality with fewer gimmicks and the overall build quality the same for both. I would mention that the Boxer engine provides a very smooth delivery, much like a 6 cylinder petrol engine, not many reviewers seem to notice this or talk about it. The infotainment is not great otherwise the Subaru is a fine car. I get 8.33 ptrs each 100km from my 2.0ltr naturally aspirated engine, 7.8 on a long run. ...
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@divinehand8 years ago thx for the work u try for video. İ expected to see this baby at off road.You had xDrive but u didnt use it which is a shame. This is not a cosmetic SUV. İ like old school things like you. Beside u didnt mention legendary eyesight tech. Keep up the good work. We are following you. ...
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@ukvamp4 years ago There is some videos on how this gearbox works, it uses a belt and know gears as such, uses like a cone to create the bigger and smaller gears.
In the mode it basically has virtual gears where they have preset points in the gearbox to act like individual gears if that makes sense ...
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@rajTrondhjem106 years ago Please review the new Impreza.. Nice work by the way!
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@aleksanderszymanowski66318 years ago 3 series GT please, I think you and your team will like it. 😊 1
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@mariolegacy528 years ago planing on getting a wrx limited this week cant wait
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@sacadosify6 years ago Really good review. Only one comment: instead of "overview", we talk about "visibility" in this context.
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@TheOneAndOnlyW3azle3 years ago sehr schön! danke. hab den 2.0er Diesel mit Handschaltung...sehr leise! und ruhig. 125-180 kmh kein problem und kaum Geräusche. ich liebe das Auto! Grüße an alle! 😄
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@sjmedia_official8 years ago good video, yopur jacket looks like home made :D
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@yfgbuhgv8 years ago Your review so much impressed me during 41min. How could you do that!
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@mesuttasdemir46188 years ago ok im relax... no i am really excited! when i saw new video:) thanks thomas 2
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@gordonbennett60578 years ago Great video for sure. At Thomas says he's "had a quite hectic day" - he's certainly been busy with all these great reviews. Forester? They used to be quite tough work-horses, soldiering on and on. This facelift is quite well priced in the UK, reflected by having none of the latest gizmos - no adaptive cruise (shame, at least they could have thrown in 'Eyesight'), no AEB even. No Lane or Side Assist, HUD, Area View, heated steering wheel. Just a simple spacious work-horse, with a rather dull interior and a CVT - sounds like a good old Forester! Nice car. ...
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@UnseenSpirit7 years ago If you live in a city that doesn't get snow or ford's/floods etc then this may not be for you. However any off roading or slightly more extreme conditions, then this is a good option. While other vehicles will get stuck, this has a good chance. ...
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@davewhittleston2963last month I’m looking at getting one of these. My only slight concern is fuel efficiency, but as we don’t do many miles, not significant. I like the idea of 250hp and proper AWD. Great review.
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@awdlover76218 years ago Graet review. Forester is one of my favourite cars.
This video lacks only the pricing and offroad part.
I think the price is quite high in absloute meaning, but considering the equipment is not to high. 4
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@rolexaddict43448 years ago Great review thanks . Are you planning a 0-200 km/h acceleration video ?
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@MelCanuck7 years ago Great review Thomas, I rather like Subarus.
I never thougth about Quart blue colour going well with the fog in the background ! :) 1
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@bogpav8 years ago Great review, like always. What you will choose between Forester XT, Rav4 Hybrid and a Tiguan 2.0 TSI ?
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@thanasisconstantinou74427 years ago Hello Thomas, very nice and detailed presentation, as always. In regards to the difference between the two cars, i' d like to say that <<oldshcool>> character is not always a bad thing, especially for older people like me.Everything depends on each one's needs and preferences.Personally, I would feel much safer in a four-wheeled vehicle like Forester,, especially on mountain roads or in adverse weather conditions. ... 1
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@radum9207 years ago can you do a review of the new legacy diesel? tks!
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@gthausde7 years ago CVT is the most effective gearbox, im not saying i preffer it, but i dont dislike it either, i find it most comfortable too.
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@snake32761208 years ago They finally fixed the "go to 2000 rpm right away from a full stop" in this one, but come on, it's 2017 and the central top display makes me feel it's from the 90's.
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@stephenbraddy99258 years ago 'Boost' is negative because the intake manifold is in vacuum when the throttle body is closed (foot off throttle). Boosted cars that do not indicate negative boost are actually incorrect, due to oversimplification.
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@RSLtreecare7 years ago A very nice review, I am in the market for a Forester.
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@superschmidi19702 years ago Why do you see a negative reading at the boost indicator at the top display? As the car enthusiast you like to be, you should know that while engine is idling there is a vacuum inside the intake manifold (thats the part between throttle body and the intake valves)! As soon as the engine revs, the turbo is producing more & more pressure an you see a possitve reading. ...
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@bp2914057 years ago Why I love Thomas' reviews:
[Highlighting the odd transparency of the steering wheel mechanism flaps]
"Okay, then. Snickers Show's over, guys. Go home." 🤣
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@weaseldragon8 years ago Hope you can get your hands on the 2017 Impreza 2.0i Premium 5 Door based on the new Subaru global platform... 9
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@patricksteyn91717 years ago Das ist wunderbar, das . excellent Car and Review. thanks
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@Andi-ft5rt8 years ago The boost pressure is under zero as long as you do not step a little bit harder on the gas pedal. Because as long as the turbo isen't working strong enough the engine works like a naturally aspirated engine and you have a negative pressure in the intake system. (I am sorry if my english was not the best...) ...
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@farhanakter40208 years ago Thomas, can you please do a full-review of the new Hyundai i20? That would be very helpful for me!
And big thanks for giving us the best car channel on YouTube!
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@mrgreatauk4 years ago I'd really love to get myself a (used) forester XT, but think the road noise at motorway speeds might be a deal breaker for me. Shame because in almost every other way it'd be ideal for what I want.
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@Hecky9058 years ago "That's huuuuge" :'D
Great thorough review, only missing a proper offroad demonstration 1
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@rflorezd19016 years ago This is the only Suv in Australia we can get in a manual the other is a RAV 4 diesel. Both Rav and Sub have 110 kw of power but the Forester has a better towing capacity at 1800 to Ravs 1100. Rav is more reliable. It's a tough decision. ... 1
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@jtdc868 years ago great video Thomas, would you choose this car or the new seat Ateca? 1
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@TigixPK6 years ago I came for the review, stayed for the voice 1
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@solman55177 years ago Thomas which would you get between Forrester and present Hyundai Tucson
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@789081364 years ago is there a real difference between the i, s, and modes?
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@ssilviu4 years ago S# is marketed by Subaru as Sport-Sharp driving mode. The other ones are Sport and Intelligent
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@miko39378 years ago ja jezdze foresterem z 2008 roku, ale swietnie zobrazowales charakter i jakim samochodem jest to cacko, widac, ze sie znasz na tym co robisz, pozdrawiam
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@ArturFlinta8 years ago Great review! Still no eyesight option in Europe?
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@janoskovacs118 years ago Nice review! It is always interesting how a German sees a real Japanese car
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@Kyumillilast year i just got the 18 XT used,... thought i had the highest trim with everything until i saw this reviewed car has a powder folding side mirror button we dont get in canada lol